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Dai Woosnam's avatar

Thanks Ben. Blushing crimson re Alexander-Arnold. Re Phil… my great great grandfather and his were two of 4 brothers. He is descended from one, and me from another. And golfer Ian from a third… though he is from the next generation… which makes Ian - in genealogical terms -

my "third cousin once removed".

Interestingly my ancestor was the only one to leave the home area near the border with Shropshire to seek his fortune digging for "black gold" (coal) in the Rhondda Valley, far to the south.

Us South Walian Woosnams refuse to pronounce our name the Shropshire

/Chinese way… we are not related to Fu Manchu…!! We always pronounce the first syllable to rhyme with Wood/could. There is a presenter on Talksport called Hugh Woozencraft… who commendably also uses the shortened "double O" sound when he pronounces his name… but Paul Hawksbee and the guy who does Hugh's programme trail, persist in using the Chinese "Mr Wu" sound…

As for American penalties… they were so wonderful to watch. As I recall - and I may well be dreaming this - successful attempts to score them were not as rare as you suggest. Most keepers were not rooted to their goal line: indeed some advanced on the taker at pace. The taker then had the option to chip the keeper, or to take it round him. But of course once the keeper touched the ball, it was deemed a save… unless the ball flew immediately into the goal after contact with the keeper's hand/body. I seem to recall that the run up was 25 yards and there was a 12 second time limit from the whistle blowing.

How I would love that to be brought back… even if my memory is playing tricks on me and the process was not quite as I recall it.

There must have been occasions when the goalie fouled the taker, and vice versa. I impishly suggest that if the keeper deliberately brings down the taker as he sees that he has just about gone round him… then, he be sent off…!! After all, he's the "last man' if ever there was one😀

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Nwankwo Charles's avatar

On ronaldo s penalties in the euros so far is it Gk independent or Gk dependent

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